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>> increasing tax rates draws money away from our economy that needs to be invested in our economy to put the american people back to work. it's the wrong approach. we're willing to put revenues on the table, but revenues that come from closing loopholes, getting rid of special interest deductions, and not raising rates. we think it's better for the economy. pure and simple. secondly, the american people expect us to find common ground, to work together, and to resolve this. and frankly, sooner is better than later. >> you've been doing this for a long time. the past 24 hours, is this the necessary public posturing that needs to go on or is there a serious stalemate right now? >> there's a stalemate. let's not kid ourselves. i'm not trying to make this more difficult. if you've watched me in the last three weeks, i've been very guarded because i don't want to make it harder for me or the president or members of both parties to be able to find common ground. but when -- when i come out the day after the election and make it clear that republicans will put revenue on the table, i took a
>> increasing tax rates draws money away from our economy that needs to be invested in our economy to put the american people back to work. it's the wrong approach. we're willing to put revenues on the table, but revenues that come from closing loopholes, getting rid of special interest deductions, and not raising rates. we think it's better for the economy. pure and simple. secondly, the american people expect us to find common ground, to work together, and to resolve this. and frankly,...
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if you think about -- remember the economy. >> i've heard of the economy, yes. >> the unemployment rate is still way too elevated. 7.9%. gdp got a pop but most of us agree it is growing well too slowly. this is our biggest near term problem. our biggest near term problem is not the budget deficit. that is a long-term problem, a serious problems, we have a chance to do something about it. . if we can at the same time, help the 2013 economy by giving it a bit of a boost, that means a lot to workers, their paychecks, job availability. i'm very happy to see that was in there. >> when you look at the white house's proposal, what do you think they think they can actually get? >> i think they think they can get the increase in the top rates. that's the biggest kind of thing to finally break the mold on that, to really push back against the kind of grover norquist ian asymmetry. i think they can get that. i'm not sure we end up at 396 for the top rate, but i think they will get that. i think probably by giving some on the entitlements as is in their opening bid, they will be able to get back to
if you think about -- remember the economy. >> i've heard of the economy, yes. >> the unemployment rate is still way too elevated. 7.9%. gdp got a pop but most of us agree it is growing well too slowly. this is our biggest near term problem. our biggest near term problem is not the budget deficit. that is a long-term problem, a serious problems, we have a chance to do something about it. . if we can at the same time, help the 2013 economy by giving it a bit of a boost, that means a...
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this could be terrible for the economy and hurt jobs and businesses. but honestly, if you are ready, america, if you are ready, hold your nose, take a deep breath and take the medicine. it will fix the problem and the deficit problem as long as everything in the fiscal cliff happens. as long as sequestration happens it will hurt defense. tax rate goes up. eventually you will get someone out, to get that president out and get president who wants lower tax rates and congress that wants the lower tax rate and maybe a senate. it would hurt dramatically. best time to do it is now. >> andrea: there are two schools of thought here. one if you follow twitter or watch republicans who are on the pundit circle, they say let them go off cliff and let obama own that. there is another one that says just let him have what he wants and then when the economy nose dives he will have to own it. republicans are going to get blamed anyway. do you feel strong about either one of those? >> dana: not necessarily. i do think i see in "washington post," headline, obama offers p
this could be terrible for the economy and hurt jobs and businesses. but honestly, if you are ready, america, if you are ready, hold your nose, take a deep breath and take the medicine. it will fix the problem and the deficit problem as long as everything in the fiscal cliff happens. as long as sequestration happens it will hurt defense. tax rate goes up. eventually you will get someone out, to get that president out and get president who wants lower tax rates and congress that wants the lower...
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they've taken on more debt into deteriorating economy. you tell me how that translates to this has all been fixed and this is all solved. it's not solved at all. [ overlapping speakers ] >> spain has about the same debt to gdp ratio as germany. that good enough for you? >> [ overlapping speakers ] >> hang on, fellows. let's not get hung up on spain. what i want to come back to is the usa. because our market has not collapsed, it's really different than it looks like it was back in 2011. i just want to ask, is it better to own those low-rate bonds right now? or jim la camp, i want you both to weigh in quickly. is it better to own corporate bonds or treasury bonds during this tiff over the fiscal cliff, or is it better to own stocks? real quick. >> well, short term we're going to have a lot of gyrations. but those yields are under the inflation rate. you're getting negative real returns on these. that's one of the reasons the stock market has been more buoyant. >> and don luskin, is it better to own bonds during this fiscal cliff tiff? >> y
they've taken on more debt into deteriorating economy. you tell me how that translates to this has all been fixed and this is all solved. it's not solved at all. [ overlapping speakers ] >> spain has about the same debt to gdp ratio as germany. that good enough for you? >> [ overlapping speakers ] >> hang on, fellows. let's not get hung up on spain. what i want to come back to is the usa. because our market has not collapsed, it's really different than it looks like it was...
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>> this is the new economy. factory jobs weren't good jobs either. the reason they became the middle class jobs we know because people organized. >> what's the next move? >> it's a movement. they are not giving up. they are going to keep working and i spoke to johnathan weston and they are hoping that more workers got energized by seeing this happen and by seeing everybody go back in today and not face reprize sal. >> so the next phase is what? >> i'm hoping for more strikes, ed. >> you're hoping for more strikes? >> yeah. >> did the 98% have anything to do with this? >> it crystallized something already going on in this country that people knew about where the wealth was going. they knew we have seen it go to the people at the top and the people at the bottom were getting squeezed. productivity has gone up, they are working harder and longer. >> there's been no organized union that has gone nd
>> this is the new economy. factory jobs weren't good jobs either. the reason they became the middle class jobs we know because people organized. >> what's the next move? >> it's a movement. they are not giving up. they are going to keep working and i spoke to johnathan weston and they are hoping that more workers got energized by seeing this happen and by seeing everybody go back in today and not face reprize sal. >> so the next phase is what? >> i'm hoping for...
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so the economy gets better. more comprehensive idea and. fha and 61, but tries accordingly -- [inaudible] down payments, bones are sustainable. so once we go back to normal times, whenever that is, we have the conversation. >> this debate has gone on since i was commissioner when we first went below 2% reserve dates. i've heard debates -- [inaudible] i've heard the debate over 3.5 to five. at the end of the day, is that the measure itself measure the greater risk controls for the fha as opposed to having just a good credit banishment protocol that requires underwriting standards that are going to provide sustainability. you can eliminate risk in its entirety. you can require 20% down payment, psycho at 740 and variables that ultimately ensure you have no risk. fha is a unique program. it has an extremely high premiums applied to every single mortgage that can support and this is a terrible way of putting it, but mathematically can support mid to high teens to literacy rates. when you go through an experiment, built on a housing bubble is qu
so the economy gets better. more comprehensive idea and. fha and 61, but tries accordingly -- [inaudible] down payments, bones are sustainable. so once we go back to normal times, whenever that is, we have the conversation. >> this debate has gone on since i was commissioner when we first went below 2% reserve dates. i've heard debates -- [inaudible] i've heard the debate over 3.5 to five. at the end of the day, is that the measure itself measure the greater risk controls for the fha as...
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>> i mean, this is the new economy, right? back in the day, factory jobss weren't good jobs, either. they were also low-paying jobs. the reason they became the middle class jobs we know because people organized. >> sarah, what's the next move in this movement? is it a movement? >> oh, it's a movement. they are not giving up. they're going to keep working. i spoke to jonathan weston for new york community for change before coming here. and they are hoping that more workers got energized by seeing this happen and by seeing everybody go back in today and not face reprisal. >> the next phase you're hoping for is what? >> i'm hoping for more strikes, ed. >> you're hoping for more strikes? >> yeah. >> do you think the 99% movement had anything to do with this? >> i think it crystalized something that was already going on in this country that people knew about where the wealth was going, right? they knew over the last 30 years we've seen it go to people at the top, the people at the bottom are getting squeezed. their productivity has
>> i mean, this is the new economy, right? back in the day, factory jobss weren't good jobs, either. they were also low-paying jobs. the reason they became the middle class jobs we know because people organized. >> sarah, what's the next move in this movement? is it a movement? >> oh, it's a movement. they are not giving up. they're going to keep working. i spoke to jonathan weston for new york community for change before coming here. and they are hoping that more workers got...
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it is a product he comes out with is good, if it is fair and just, and moves the countries economy, and starts declining the deficit then it's good. and the process will have worked. if it isn't, then we can revisit the process and say the process was flawed. >> the process getting there is the hard part. we could all in our heads draw up a deal but he has had people over the last couple of weeks, republicans taking risk. boehner took a risk, tom cole took a risk and he undercut them. he made them look stupid with what he did yesterday. they feel furious, they feel burned so you have to help your people along. you have to make it more possible. and so that's why i think you just got to what he offered was not only a balanced deal that would be fine if he offered something balance, he offered something even worse from the republican point of view than what he had offered a couple years ago. so he started with drawing things off the tab and it seemed like chest beats. >> we just went through an election, david. the republicans are the ones who are for medicare kurkts they really are. so w
it is a product he comes out with is good, if it is fair and just, and moves the countries economy, and starts declining the deficit then it's good. and the process will have worked. if it isn't, then we can revisit the process and say the process was flawed. >> the process getting there is the hard part. we could all in our heads draw up a deal but he has had people over the last couple of weeks, republicans taking risk. boehner took a risk, tom cole took a risk and he undercut them. he...
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you are having some potential impact on the entire economy. obviously, toys and other things, as well. >> the president's plan calls for raising the tax rates on americans earning $250,000 or more. most republicans remain dead set against the president's plan. >> that's true. i think, though, we have to take a look at the larger context. the larger context is we have a math problem. we have $2.5 trillion that we're taking in every year on the federal government and $3.5 trillion that we're spending. so, we're going to need a balanced approach of both revenue and spending cuts to teat there. so, that's what the president has been talking about and certainly something i can support. >> "the wall street journal" today senior administration officials say the white house not making any new offers until republicans change their opposition to raising top tax rates in this country. as a businessman, that would be directly affected by an impasse like that, as would millions of americans. how do you feel about that? >> how i feel, i'm 100% confident we'
you are having some potential impact on the entire economy. obviously, toys and other things, as well. >> the president's plan calls for raising the tax rates on americans earning $250,000 or more. most republicans remain dead set against the president's plan. >> that's true. i think, though, we have to take a look at the larger context. the larger context is we have a math problem. we have $2.5 trillion that we're taking in every year on the federal government and $3.5 trillion...
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that's a greater drain on the economy. it takes their money and spending power out of the economy, puts it into health care. however, though, i do think there should be some further adjustments on eligibility. i do not believe that i should be able to get the same kind of benefits as, say, you know, a retired school teacher. i should have to pay a greater co pay. the threshold before i got any benefits should be there. also, my children, hopefully, if they are successful, i think we have a responsibility to take care of our parents too if we can. the government needs to be helping people who can't help themselves, that are going to have difficulty doing that. >> i'm glad you made this argument because this is the argument that you hear pete peterson make who's funding a lot of the groups who are talking about attacking the debtor the deficit and you hear mitch mcconnell and you hear some republicans and democrats make it. well, look, progressives, you care about redistribution and you care about all of these things, equali
that's a greater drain on the economy. it takes their money and spending power out of the economy, puts it into health care. however, though, i do think there should be some further adjustments on eligibility. i do not believe that i should be able to get the same kind of benefits as, say, you know, a retired school teacher. i should have to pay a greater co pay. the threshold before i got any benefits should be there. also, my children, hopefully, if they are successful, i think we have a...
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access to credit for people needing to refinance, has been crucially important to ensuring that the economy has started to heal and that he housing market has begun to heal, and without fha, a clearly we would be in a much more difficult situation in terms of the housing recovery than we are today. one slide i do want to show, and i don't know if it shows in color there very well -- is on this point of our market share and what we did and when we did it. and the reason this is important is, fha really had very low market share prior to the crisis. what happened during the crisis was a lot of-what should would call, reckless lending, subprime lending, fha didn't go there. the reason we had low market share is many people being sucked into the subprime mortgages during that period of time, and fha was still requiring 30-year, fully documented, fully amortizing loans, and so when people could go somewhere else, they did. what happened -- and it's probably hard to see for some of you but starting in 2007, 2008, if you look at the whether you -- blue bars, those are refinancing. what happened is
access to credit for people needing to refinance, has been crucially important to ensuring that the economy has started to heal and that he housing market has begun to heal, and without fha, a clearly we would be in a much more difficult situation in terms of the housing recovery than we are today. one slide i do want to show, and i don't know if it shows in color there very well -- is on this point of our market share and what we did and when we did it. and the reason this is important is, fha...
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it's only going to make it harder for our economy to grow and if our economy doesn't grow, americans don't get new jobs and the debt problem that we have will continue to threaten our children's future. as i said the day after the election, republicans are not seeking to impose our will on the president. we're seeking a biparty an solution that can pass both chambers of congress and be signed into law by the president in the coming days. during the campaign, the president pledged to the american people that he would seek a balanced approach to addressing the debt, a combination of new revenues and spending cuts. so the day after the election, i said the republican majority would accept new revenue as part of a balanced approach that includes real spending cuts and reform. now, the white house took three weeks to respond with any kind of a proposal and much to my disappointment, it wasn't a serious one. still, i'm willing to move forward in good faith. our original framework still stands. instead of raising tax rates, we can produce a similar amount of revenue reforming the tax code t
it's only going to make it harder for our economy to grow and if our economy doesn't grow, americans don't get new jobs and the debt problem that we have will continue to threaten our children's future. as i said the day after the election, republicans are not seeking to impose our will on the president. we're seeking a biparty an solution that can pass both chambers of congress and be signed into law by the president in the coming days. during the campaign, the president pledged to the...
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now that may affect the economy, but either way, it will affect the same people n if it affects the economy, it facts everyone. and those people are small businesses. those people then it goes down to the employees and it slows our economy and this is not a time to be doing that. this is why president obama extend the tax rates for a year action because he said this could hurt the economy. here we are again. we're not anywhere different than we were last year really. >> gregg: donna, dick durbin, the senate's number two democrat, said that social security is off the table because i'm going to quote him here -- it does not add a penny to our deficit. that's ludicrus. >> i think that i'm unable to comment because i think the context may have something to do with the sense of lock box and where this money actually comes from and where it sits in the meanwhile before it gets spent. but i also think it's awfully important to remember that in terms of republican cooperation, the president really has been i think very sincere about seeking that cooperation and initially speaker boehner i think exp
now that may affect the economy, but either way, it will affect the same people n if it affects the economy, it facts everyone. and those people are small businesses. those people then it goes down to the employees and it slows our economy and this is not a time to be doing that. this is why president obama extend the tax rates for a year action because he said this could hurt the economy. here we are again. we're not anywhere different than we were last year really. >> gregg: donna, dick...
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it's about what the effect will be on the economy. just to be clear -- >> it's about getting real about where we are and what's going on here. not deluding yourself about that. >> i agree. but we shouldn't get deluded about things like the impact it's going to have on december spending, too, karen. remember we're talking about 2013 taxes, not 2012 taxes. but if americans are taking out loans based on what their tax return is going to be in april maybe we should be talking about financial literacy and not about how budgeting works. >> we can but i'm just trying to tell you realistically that's how people are living their lives in the united states of america in the 21st century. so we need to be real about how people are living their lives. >> you know what, one thing i do want to talk about, i'll begin with you tony on this. i'm sure you saw that photo making the rounds this week of house committee chairmen? what is that all about. they're all white males. speaker boehner now said he was indeed appointing a female chair congresswoman,
it's about what the effect will be on the economy. just to be clear -- >> it's about getting real about where we are and what's going on here. not deluding yourself about that. >> i agree. but we shouldn't get deluded about things like the impact it's going to have on december spending, too, karen. remember we're talking about 2013 taxes, not 2012 taxes. but if americans are taking out loans based on what their tax return is going to be in april maybe we should be talking about...
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for our economy. and lindsay lohan is behind the wheel. see, that says danger. people understand that they understand that. >> that is -- that tells the tale perhaps a little better. lindsay lohan, nobody wants her driving. all right. welcome back to "fox & friends" on this saturday morning. so the lottery. >> did you guys play? >> no, no. dave always plays. i forget and then i think i'm glad i didn't. >> i was so convinced i was going to win for some reason. >> what are the chances you are going to get struck lie lightning three times. david didn't win. cindy and mark hill ended up winning from the midwest. >> quick pick ticket that goes against the conventional wisdom you never won with a quick pick. >> last one was won with a quick pick. >> $293 million chopped out approximately in half. they wanted the lump sum. they went back to the high school where they met to accept this and do a little press conference to talk about what they do now. you have to feel happy for them. she was laid off in 2010 i think as an office manager. he had just recently found work a
for our economy. and lindsay lohan is behind the wheel. see, that says danger. people understand that they understand that. >> that is -- that tells the tale perhaps a little better. lindsay lohan, nobody wants her driving. all right. welcome back to "fox & friends" on this saturday morning. so the lottery. >> did you guys play? >> no, no. dave always plays. i forget and then i think i'm glad i didn't. >> i was so convinced i was going to win for some...